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Kim Namjoon: Inner Planets Natal Reading

💕 Hello! In preparation for Namjoon’s birthday, and celebration of Namjoon being nominated for the most handsomest faces this year. I’m here to GUSH about a certain Virgo boy! There’ll be a NJ Birthday Project series coming out so please look forward to that as well! 💕

PS. In this post I also touched on JK and Jimin since they share similar placements to Namjoon, I hope you don’t mind!💕

Taehyung Inner Planet Natal Reading | Taehyung - Members: Relationship Dynamics

Jungkook Inner Planet Natal Reading

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Virgo Boys (Namjoon - Jungkook) Masterlist 

 Masterlist (other groups, gg, soloist, co-eds) 

*answered asks about BTS members romantic stuff is at the bottom of the masterlist

(uwu im so soft for him he’s adorable) 

💕Disclaimer: I’m not claiming to be an expert astrologer nor do I know these people personally. These are my interpretations and how they’re working based on my experiences/studies on them. Everyone has different opinions/studies in astrology, please be mindful of others and all interpretation/experiences is valid to an extent. However, feel free to make your own post or skip if you strongly disagree. There might be inaccuracy and difference in opinions. But the point of this post is to entertain and relate. I’m hoping to help people with similar experiences and get people excited about astrology. Also, since we don’t know most of their birth times, I’m using the standard 12.00pm💕

Kim Namjoon (RM)

Note: Each placement/sign is split into mini sections for easier reading. Again, these aren’t flushed out. They’re just my interpretations. There are different component/sides to the sign that I didn’t touch on. 

September 12th 1994 (Illsan, South Korea)

Virgo Sun | 2nd Decan (Saturn/Capricorn)

Ok first of all, he’s a lot harder on himself than we realize and it’s not just because he’s thoughtful (that Libra Mercury) 

With his Sun (ego/esteem) being in Virgo with the sub-ruler in Capricorn/Saturn, he might find himself being pretty self-critical, prone to putting himself down/talking to himself in order to ‘snap himself out of it’/understand himself better.

Understanding that Saturn brings a disciplinarian attitude. Sometimes towards their external environment (Capricorn) and to themselves (Virgo). 

They tend to be pretty hard-headed (stubborn) when faced with opposition/challenges in life because there’s always that sense of confronting/overcoming the adversaries in order to feel accomplished in themselves

Sun-ego/self-esteem/sense of self is tied into this ‘serious’ undertone Capricorn/Saturn brings. Demonstrated into an attitude towards work, that is more somber (in tone) when he’s working towards accomplishments/achievements he wants to have/create. 

It’s part of the reason why he has a very humbling acceptance/response to his successes. He’s always very tenacious/driven about doing the actual back work, so the result/rewards of the progress is balanced through Virgo’s modest, calmer charm. (Capricorn cardinal pushing for his successes, Virgo mutable gracefully and tactfully accepting those successes. Sun-decan)    

Virgo also has a sturdiness that is tinted from Capricorn/Saturn influence, giving it an inner conviction that backs his opinion.

Meaning that while he might be very opinionated, he’s often very stubborn as well.   

A Virgo-Virgo (JK) might be more hot-headed, but a Virgo-Capricorn/ Virgo-Taurus is a lot more hard-headed. 

There’s this sturdiness (‘pushiness’) in expressing his ideas/desire without backing down. But whilst Virgo-Taurus can be obstinately pushy, a Virgo-Capricorn has a slight distinction. There’s a maturity to them (being the oldest of the earth signs) that will actually concede to another, if the point being made objectively surpassing their own ability to contribute to the argument/conversation (for the better good).

With Virgo-Capricorn, whether they’re the teacher or the student here, if they could learn something/concede to the point being made then they’ll back down/accept their role as the student. 

But if they think their points are contributing to the greater good (surpassing their counterparts) the they absolutely would not back down. (pridefulness/ego as well)

Cardinal tint (Capricorn)- confronts himself/others, in order to achieve what his Sun wants/need. 

Fixed tint (Taurus) - convinced in his own desire/opinions, perseverance to achieve what his Sun wants/needs.

The big question here is whether he knows what he wants/needs or not. Whilst Fixed tint are often able to carry out their perseverance because they tend to know (intuitively sometimes) what’s better for themselves. The Cardinal here is about learning/growing as they go.

Combined that with the naturally mutable Virgo, a lot of the time it’s through fighting/growing like this that he figures out what he wants and what he desires to nourish his soul. 

It’s a lot of internal debate and self-questioning, transitioning and growing as he faces dangers and challenges in his life. 

A lot of the time, they do go through fluxes of ups and downs just because their emotional/inner need can tend to influence their subconscious and mind/thoughts a lot.  

His ego/self-esteem wants to understand itself, wants to solve what it wants externally. Virgo-Capricorn can pull this internal self-analysis outwards instead of letting it bounce around inside instead. (see: Namjoon talking to himself, figuring himself out, having a lot of thoughts on who he is and some of his existential crisis is reflected in his musics/lyrics/thoughts/notes) 

Sometimes letting it bounce around inside can feel really constricting, because Virgo can often have this ‘simplification process’ going on inside of them already (take notice of it, like an internal organization system that wants to put everything in order/hierarchy to make externalizing thoughts easier for the Virgo natives themselves.) 

When the idea/desire seems to be a bigger problem there’s a natural tendency to ‘flatten’ the dimensionality of the thought/desire to make it more manageable for themselves. 

However, with a Capricorn decan there’s a desire/inquiring need to actually pull it outwards to study it deeper. Capricorn (cardinal) doesn’t just talk about pursuing something, it’s also pulling it’s depth out as well (like Scorpio’s intensity/focus, but Capricorn tends to focus on it in a tangible way/thus pull it outwards).  

When you pull the thought outwards, it has more range to expand itself in because it’s not constricted by just his sun anymore. It’s his Mercury, Venus, Moon, Mars helping it as well.

Like chemicals sometimes, contained inside a bottle it’s not reacting to anything. But once you put it in a test tube, it might start reacting to air/water/solubles you add to it. Putting thoughts/ideas out of the container (inside of himself) and exposing it to the elements (external factors) adding solubles (influences of placements) to it creates a reaction, a way to understand/build up this sense of self (Sun) is to get exposure. Even if that exposure is merely, saying it aloud or putting the thought into existence. Manifestation is key (Capricorn externalization helping Virgo internal thoughts desire/process becoming more solid) 

A lot of the time, the best method is a lot like sound-boarding off of himself. Virgo is a mercurial sign that talks about tangibility (earth, Mercury ruled), Capricorn helps express that.He wants some sort of organization in his life. 

One of the biggest challenge Virgo-Capricorn faces is feeling out of control (not really understanding certain part of themselves.)

They dig deep into the smaller details (Virgo) of what makes them do that certain thing. And then it bothers them so much, they might find themselves wanting to pull it out of themselves. 

Since Virgo are capable of doing most of the verbally expressing part on their own already, the difficulty natives might find themselves facing is that it’s not solid enough/substantial enough to confront the problem. (leads to confusion, taking breaks, not really understanding how to help themselves sometimes esp since it’s the Sun)

Capricorn helps with the confronting aspect, it helps enables this act of externalizing and creating substance from the thought because of it’s Saturn/Cardinal nature. And as a grounded/very set earth-sign.  

It helps manifests the thoughts/ideas/desire of the Sun physically. Makes it more grounded/tangible - link the thought to things to actually do about it, resources, reference, expansion on the idea without losing train of thoughts), so he can face it instead of struggle with it internally. 

That’s what I mean by sturdier, just the resourcefulness/steady-handedness Capricorn brings to Virgo Sun’s desire, helping it out/supporting it. (Sun-decan) 

Virgo dimensionality (2-D-ness) could be restricting, and Capricorn usually has a huge depth of thoughts/emotions to them (that they unfortunately just like suppressing).

Placement-decans are usually see-sawing off of each other’s strength and weaknesses. This is Capricorn using it’s organizational and depth (best attribute) to help Virgo solve it’s disorganization/dimensionality problem.

So the commonality between them is organization/structure, but their difference/aptitude helps each other out (in a very earth sign way: compromising for progress/better good) 

Capricorn’s worse trait is it’s suppression of it’s own depth. But as a decan, it’s not really forcing Namjoon to restrict himself. It helps him to face his own problems/confront things inside himself that Virgo brings to the table. The problems (confusion) being addressed is Virgo’s problem, Capricorn does it’s best to help progress/further it a long (and if it can’t contribute constructively, then they both have to learn how to adapt/collaborate unplanned. Bc earth signs.)

This is the difference between Sun-decan, the rulership/power dynamic is always for the purpose of benefiting from one another/supporting one another. Besides giving a tonality/personality to the ruling sign, it also adds an element of support/attributes to it help it progress as well. 

So you can see it as a kind of team work here. Instead of Capricorn taking the reign it’s just-- what he expresses in his face. This serious side of Namjoon/his more sober nature we don’t really get to see is the Capricorn decan in his Sun. 

It’s the process he has to go through in order to come post-production on broadcast (vlive behind, interview, etc.) when Libra Mercury can take the reign -- talking about the product of his Sun. (see further in the Moon section and Mercury section below) 

That’s part of why Namjoon’s so forthright and honest with his thoughts/feelings-- because if it comes from inside himself, the deepest part of his thoughts and his sincerity/integrity (sun - sense of self, ego, desire) then everything he’s saying/talking about he has conviction behind it. (Capricorn helping backed/sustain the Virgo’s desire/thoughts/wants)

He truly believes in what he’s saying, and if he doesn’t then it’s going to eat him up on the inside first. (Virgo internally/dimensionality, Capricorn need for depth/intensity)

Virgo Sun: Libra Mercury 

With Namjoon the significance of his Sun here is crucial. Most likely, its probably his strongest/sturdiest core. If he has a good solid base to work from, then this Virgo (Mercury ruled) is influencing how it’s being used in his Libra Mercury as well. 

It helps with understanding how eloquent the Libra Mercury comes across, as well as Namjoon’s involvement in his intellect (it fuels his own Sun). So it’s like, grinding/good concept -> push it onto Libra Mercury to externalize. 

Case study: compare it to Jimin who has the same Libra Mercury, you can see the similarity in style of speech (divert, smoothing over, etc) but Namjoon seems to have a focus on self-improvement (in a different way than Jimin does) self-reflection/evaluation (critically), on-going thoughts/ideas that sub verge with each other and concepts (post-production stage: conclusion of what he’s read/seen/observed) -- it’s not just all from his Sagittarius Moon (yes, he speaks with emotional investment there) but it’s also from his Sun. 

His desire to pursue, share and truly connect has to come from his Sun. Otherwise there’s no real sense of fulfillment or ‘self-love’ there for him. 

If it’s not fueling his own sense of self, his desire or his honest wants/needs (Sun) then it’s never going to be satisfying enough for him. It’ll become a yo-yo effect because he can only sustain it for a certain amount of time. If it’s just from his Moon (or any other placements), the emotional satisfaction and growth only goes for so long without another support (in this case, the Sun) behind it. 

Values of placements, signs and power in each person’s chart is different. But just from first-view/brief observation you can see that it plays an importance to him consciously (not intentional but if you pay attention, there’s a strong Virgo sense to him there when he’s expressing himself/his core beneath the other placements)

Jimin’s similar in how his Sun actually supports his Mercury here. With them both being in Libra, you can see how Jimin’s focus is different. 

When they talk, Jimin’s speech is a similar style to Namjoon (smoothing over, harmonic, over-arching) but his focus seems to be on desire/goals(personal ambition), relationship (socially), balance/justice (harmony) and compromising (peace). 

Their focus differs because it’s backed by different signs/placements.

In one of Namjoon’s vlive he’d mentioned before that Jimin and him are actually quite similar. Part of it is because they share that Libra Mercury (and Scorpio Venus) but while that means they do have similar style of thoughts (have thought/touched around the subject before) the pursuing of their focus they choose to really invest in (things they care about/fuel them individually) are different. 

They’re supportive of each other because they have similar ideas/style/thoughts, but they’re different from each other because the backing (emotional attachment/sense of fulfillment/self-expression) are personal to them individually (intimate to their own persons)

So now we look at the details. While they’re similar with their Libra Mercury, Namjoon’s tone and motivation (influenced by the backing) much more forceful than Jimin is. 

(Jimin is forceful in a different way, his tone is different from Namjoon. I’ll touch on that more when I do his actual inner planet reading)

His Sun (Virgo-Capricorn) has a pushiness to it, a serious/soberness that still comes through. A stubbornness/testament to his struggles (processing point) from earlier before he reaches this post-production part (the actual sharing with the world part). 

The disciplinarian Sun-tint definitely comes through. Capricorn here gives him less of a focus on the harmonic, but more of a teacher/authority to his voice. 

When he’s being the leader, making speech, it comes through this way. 

Jimin has a different tone/style than Namjoon (with the same Mercury, but backed up differently). He tends to go for a smooth style of speech and a quieter/linker type of speaker (in both public and private). His style is more about the transition/being tactful than Namjoon’s forceful/authoritative nature 

Consider: looking at Namjoon talking in private/public + Jimin talking in private/public -- there’s a difference, not just because Namjoon’s a leader and Jimin supports his ideas. But also what is pulling them together and distincting them apart in their individual style of speaking as well. 

Thoughts align similarly, supportive of each other. But the focus/compliments Jimin brings to light about Namjoon is what Jimin focuses on/is backed up from, which Namjoon is different to.  

Back to Namjoon, there’s more conviction and purpose here. If it’s supported by his Sun: when he says things from the heart he’s much sturdier than being caught off guard with just his Libra Mercury. (The importance of being supported/working well with your placement) 

Virgo Sun: Virgo ‘messiness’/Understanding Themselves

A bit more on Virgo Sun-Capricorn decan: A lot of the time when he has his inner-thoughts/figuring himself out moments, in the long-run it looks like it’s sporadic but on-going. (meaning: not during the process, but it’s habitual behaviour since pre-debut -> now) 

It’s not like Namjoon is constantly on the grind to discover himself as his main goal (dig himself deeper into the hole) nor is he heavily burdened trying to look for the ‘one true answer’ so he can get his life organized and start doing stuff (like a sudden ‘aha! i figure my life goals/wants out now’ moment) -- we’re just trying to look at how he works.

The mutable quality (Virgo) here is good for him because it makes him take breaks from the Capricorn’s pursuit/grind. And the Capricorn is good for him because it gives him long-term perseverance and goals to achieve/look forward to in the future. 

It’s good to be ‘sporadic’ since Virgo would need the time/space to recover and re-organize. It’s also good that it’s ‘on-going’ because Capricorn would allow him to continue to move forward and reach different ‘rest stop’ a long the way. (that motion/drive forward, along with enough ‘rest’ and ‘release’ from Virgo)

It’s like a train ride, each station/stop becomes a ‘semi-conclusion/satisfying-enough-solution’ to some part of his life long inquiry/self-discovery journey.   

Hitting a bit more on traits to do with this Virgo-Capricorn Sun (for Namjoon): methods/form of self-pep (talking to himself), writing his thoughts/ideas down, flow-chart/diagrams (visually), lyrics/crafting. Any organizational method for himself to figure out his internal desire would help, but most of all it’s in writing/creating (tangibility)  

The thoughtfulness/overthinking trait probably stems from part of his Sun as well. 

Namjoon’s known for his intellect, and a part of it is because it’s strongly correlated to this Virgo (Virgo - mercury, influencing his Libra Mercury.) His intellect is part of his sense of pride/ego/self. It’s also what helps him figure himself out a lot of the time.

He’s always going to be observative: talk to himself about himself, about concepts/things that’s bothering him. About the little things and structure and bigger establishment/plans/goals and ideas. (Capricorn decan- Sagittarius Moon) 

He’s always going to question the smallest part of himself and try to structure it somehow. 

It helps with intellectualization, but also visualization/manifesting it into reality. 

Actions he can take to help it out, he will in order to pursue that ‘on-going’-ness he brings.

A lot of the time, he gets so consumed in this part of himself that he tends to neglect/forget his external environment/smaller stuff. Losing things, being organized (in an conventional sense) keeping track of time/things. (Namjoon’s forgetfulness isn’t just his Cancer Mars/Sagittarius Moon-- it’s this Sun as well)

A lot of it has to do with spontaneity that Virgo Sun also brings. He needs to figure it out, or else it eats up at his sense of self and he needs to figure it out now. 

Virgos already have a reputation for being externally organized, and while that might not be true for most Virgo natives that’s the challenge they often face in order to feel in control of themselves. 

A lot of the time, Virgo native probably doesn’t feel like they’re the hot-shit/top-stuff, but that structure that balance/inner fulfillment is what keeps them pursuing things and craving it/desire (Sun). 

They might find themselves doing a lot of things to fill that sense of self, that craving and void that they predict will become filled once they finish certain tasks/do things. There’s a lot of stuff burdening them personally, from their external environment to their deeper inner problem, so it’s just a matter of organizing/making a list/hierarchy to make things manageable for themselves to do. That’s their sense of pursuit and in a way, a resemblance of structure in their life whether they notice it or not. 

It’s not as if they’re extremely messy people, but they’re the one who brings the topic up the most. Namjoon and JK (and Hobi) are the few people who always brings up/mention how ‘messy’ or ‘disorganized’ something is/they are. Even when no one else thinks they are or has mentioned it. 

It’s this Sun’s focus/projection into caring about the little details that’s truly bringing it out. It’s a manifestation of their desire (wanting to clean up/organize/improve) because there’s always more. It’s almost metaphorical in a way, to compare external messiness to their inner thirst for improvement. Attaining that desire/happiness they want to achieve.  

Refer to the gif above, do you see the very organized and all aligned dolls behind him? That’s some Virgo shit right there. Remember his bed? How all his Ryans are stacked in some kind of orderly fashion? 

Namjoon’s not as ‘disorganized’ as he thinks he is. He emphasizes a lot on how he’s messy (verbally) and the things he do that contributes to this messiness (Hobi’s latest vlive in LA tour: Namjoon mentioning how he threw his pillows out of the bed) because it shows that there’s room for improvement, the desire for self-evaluation/being critical of himself = being able to work up to that standard they set up for themselves ( ‘perfectionist ideals’/ ‘standards’ that Virgo Sun aims for) 

Same as Jungkook, who always first to disclaim his external disorganization whenever the topic of visiting his studio/room comes out. But he doesn’t-- nag anyone about it. Namjoon doesn’t either. It’s not the mess anyone else made that matters, it’s the mess they themselves made that they feel is bothering them. 

Objectively, it’s not ‘messiness’ itself, it’s just their own personal senses/thoughts/feelings related to their ‘messiness’ that’s projected outwardly that’s bothering them. They want to be not messy inside. It’s part of why they approve of people who seems well-organized/well-groomed (has their inner shit sorted out) if they have their inner-shit sorted out, then that’s a whole huge bucket they don’t have to suffer through, right?

Also: They’re a lot more pre-occupied with other things (thinking/day-dreaming) to pay attention sometimes. 

(Virgo-Virgo for JK: his mind stuff mostly, Virgo-Capricorn for NJ: his life goals, plans, establishment mostly). But the significance of organization isn’t missed on them (when they ‘wake up’ or ‘come to’ and realize/note their external environment outside this Virgo thinking/day-dreaming bubble.) 

Maybe their sense of internal disorganization makes them anxious/nervous about being judged for their external organization.

Virgos tend to place their energy in trying to have some kind of order/structure about them. 

Often time this backfires in underdeveloped Virgos, they’ll end up over-organizing their external environment to make up for an internal disorganization problem. 

With Namjoon he’s internally disorganized so he relies on routine to create some kind structure in his life (externally: knowing where to go, what to visit, what he likes, his interest/knowing himself or figuring out himself helps a lot with it - part of Sag Moon but also Cancer Mars here as well) 

Virgo being a mercurial makes natives naturally curious. Also being an earth-sign, most of the interest doesn’t have to come to interacting with others. 

They can find enjoyment in studies, puzzles, setting up projects for themselves or even just pursuing personal interests (doll collection, supporting sustainable fashion, etc). Capricorn enables this tangibility quality to Virgo.

Compared to JK’s Virgo-Virgo: JK is much more interested/awed by other people’s thoughts, intellect and style. He’s interested in learning, while Namjoon here is interested in adding materials to himself. To teach and to share with others. His focus is much more self-geared here. 

Virgo Sun: Capricorn Decan - Moments of Solitude and Subtle Affections

Having this Capricorn decan makes him much more sympathetic to others, he exhibits the best quality of Capricorn which is perseverance, long-term studiousness, a sincere nature and an inner gentleness/dedication to his projects (even if he’s frustrated sometimes). 

Along with everything comes with moments of withdrawn. More so than the Virgo native (Virgo-Taurus/Virgo-Virgo), he has to have his moments alone to contemplate.

It’s not a bad thing to be withdrawn, it’s actually really helpful. Instead of being enthusiastic/always moving like JK, Namjoon’s much more cautious/calculative. 

He has the space to think things through, that stability/conclusive conviction in himself. It comes from that Capricorn decan influencing his Sun. 

Also a lot of-- subtleness that comes with Virgo-Capricorn. Namjoon can often comes across as the exact opposite of subtle when it’s about self-expression: he tends to talk very loudly as a way of externalizing himself (see above). 

But when it comes to the-- sentimental things that matters to him, like to people/his family for instance. He demonstrates his love in an almost secretive way.

This isn’t just from Scorpio Venus (intimacy) it’s about dedication and timelessness. He wants his affection to be noticed, but he’s not going to go about it in a very up-front/pure-emotion kind of way. 

Imagine a Virgo Venus but even more reserved (in the beginning stages of being interested), because of the Capricorn decan. That’s him wanting to reach out to people, but sometimes comes across a block-solid wall in his own self-expression (Capricorn-Virgo).

A huge part of the sun is their relation to others and how they express themselves. Y know since Leo-- a sign ruled by the Sun, talks about externalizing itself/self- expression. It doesn’t make sense if we don’t touch on it from other sign’s experience as well.  

Virgo-Capricorn can have a stiffness with demonstration, when viewed from another person’s perspective. 

Namjoon is definitely not all soft and gushy, in fact if there’s talks about emotions that he’s not prepared for he’s going to distance himself away/make fun of it (Sag-Virgo/Cap- err on the side of caution sometimes/flighty despite being foolhardy on other things they’re ‘prepared’ for.) 

It’s also part of that Virgo-Capricorn pride, whether subconsciously or not, there’s an unwillingness to be seen as weak that does tend to get the best of him sometimes. (Most commonly seen in pre-debut Namjoon: hip hop versus idol persona)

Especially since Capricorn decan hardens him to cruise through rough waves, when it comes to confronting the soft-sanded beaches he can feel like it’s hard to step onto/sinking into his feet that lacks the sturdiness/stability he’s used to.  

Besides the need to have his own space/be alone in order to live with others for a long-period of time (he mentions how he’s seen/lived with the members for a long time, not like Yoongi who brings up the fact every 5 seconds but with Namjoon it’s mostly said in a joking manner/casual co-habitation) 

Namjoon’s Virgo emphasized by this Capricorn decan also makes him very giving to those around him. He’s very conscious of what he puts out, Virgo’s ‘serving’/ ‘helpful’ nature is encouraged by Capricorn’s sincerity/cardinal nature.

He often finds himself much more conscious of himself than of others, wants/desire to take others by their words/face value when he knows he can trust them. This limits his social circle quite a bit because he’s selective of the people he puts trusts in. 

It’s partially a consequence of his withdrawn trait (lack of action, conserving strength in order to pursue other stuff), but also a conscious/natural suspicion of others around him.

In order to maximize Virgo’s giving nature, he wants to minimize the amount of people/time he’s critical of other’s around him. 

To do that, he can find himself lacking motivation to pursue personal relationships that he’s initially unsteady about, or cutting people out decisively if they’re bad for him. Besides being able to hold a grudge (Cancer Mars) he’s also very persistent/demanding in his social relationship as well (Scorpio Venus - see later)

This Virgo-Capricorn since it influences his Mercury (Virgo Sun expressing itself/pride through Mercury - ruler) his sense of humor can come across as sort of dry and sarcastic. 

A consequence of that Capricorn decan wanting to express it’s humour, which coincidentally tends to be just in Seokjin’s line of taste(Capricorn Venus) and Taehyung makes him feel like this side of him is understood/acceptable (Capricorn Mercury). 

Since it can be kind of -- peculiar (combined with Virgo, the way it’s expressed is kind of quirky/peculiar without him having certain control over it sometimes)

Asking for help is also a problem he might face, it’s part to do with that withdrawn nature but also just the general stiffness/pridefulness he has. 

Capricorn decan here is stopping him from reaching out to people, because it’s so used to being the disciplinarian. The lesson it has to learn is to become the student. Something JK can help him with/he can learn from. 

The lesson it has to learn is to not stop the Virgo from reaching out to people. The sun (for him) is largely dependent on that initial ‘fighting to find himself’ stage, so any ego/stagnancy in his part is a hinderance to himself. 

The Capricorn-Virgo can have some ideas about serving others through disciplinarian/authority in itself (sense of self/ego) -- built up ego of knowing who he is without questioning himself becomes an unwilling to break himself to grow more, to listen to others and to learn. 

Having mutable/cardinal signs in your chart is only useful if you acknowledge it, and help it’s nature instead of ‘fixing’ it (get it? cause ‘fixed’ signs...) 

If it’s held on for too long, it becomes a problem/inner tension he needs to fix. So by only acknowledging, surrendering and growing from it’s natural waves, could he continue to use his Sun in his growth.     

Aspects

Sun (Virgo) - Square - Moon (Sagittarius)

This emphasized the self-critical nature Namjoon has to himself, but more on the ‘talking to himself/self-confusion and questioning himself’ part. 

There’s an emphasis here on trying to reason, analyze and understand where his emotions/instant actions are coming from. 

You can see when he’s embarrassed or ‘regretting his life choices’ that it’s mostly his reserved Sun being conscientious of his Moon’s instantaneous reaction. (also supported by Moon-Mars aspect below: feels like he lose control/act without thinking often, his Sun deals with being conscious of it/feeling embarrassed afterwards)

A lot of the time this spurs his own confusion even more, he wants to understand himself but he feels he lacks balance. Lacks stability and order that he craves. 

Because the Sun here is picking up on the smallest, tiniest details of his action/thoughts/subconscious mind that his Moon has (is in charge of). 

While his Moon is overlooking all the things the Sun pays attention to. It’s focused on the bigger picture, the bigger aspects, the concepts and ideas and the ever moving motion of things. 

His Sun is the consciousness part of him that’s digging it’s heels in trying to be like ‘wait wait let’s figure this out, let me figure this out’.  While the Moon is going ‘lets go, I know what’s best for us! It’s the ever-moving process of fighting/on-going nature that’s going to grow us better! let’s go!’ (getting the gist/motion of what the Sun is about and running with it)  

Despite Virgo and Sagittarius being mutable signs they’re constantly in motion different from each other (Mercury isn’t going at the same pace as Jupiter y know, size wise and speed wise)

Being of a different element, the contrast between them is even more prominent as well. 

It’s not like they’re not orbiting in each other’s presence, in fact if you want to think about it visually. It’s like peering into a store window (in a shopping mall) and seeing your aunt make a scene inside (Sag Moon). It’s precisely because they’re aspected that means they’re aware of what each other’s doing. 

The problem this might pose for Namjoon is heightened confusion and indecision. They’re both mutable signs of different element and polarity, there’s always that push-pull dynamic inside of himself. 

It also heightens his suspicion and critical consciousness, like, he’s always aware of the opposite side of the argument. 

When talking to someone, he’s always disclaiming himself not to be misunderstood because he doesn’t understand himself sometimes (self-confusion/figuring himself out). 

He might find himself fool-proofing that/projecting the same kind of suspicion onto other people as well.  

Sun (Virgo) - Sextile - Mars (Cancer)

Oof we love a powerful man! 💕

Sun backed up by Mars here gives a strength to pursue the things he wants to pursue (through activitiy). 

The innate qualities of Virgo such as it’s attention to details, critical nature, organizational qualities is expressed outwards through his actions/work. 

It also plays a little bit into how he comes across, people respect Namjoon because he has this sense of understanding to him.

 A sympathetic and observational nature that is expressed through his Virgo Sun - Cancer Mars aspect.

He’s able to connect to others (Cancer) and serve them (Virgo) on a deeper level than just the physical/emotional (Sun-Mars). 

He’s pragmatic (Virgo) and sturdy (Cancer), a perfect leader quality!

Minor details: it also plays into having a healthier masculinity, Cancer and Virgo are both feminine signs that builds and strengthen his masculinity, if they’re being used honestly and truthfully in Namjoon’s life.

That means he accepts them and nourish them, grow them in order to build/strengthen this Sun-Mars aspect of his. 

When he has more more practice sustaining his masculinity through Cancer and Virgo, he has a balance of both masculinity and femininity that he demonstrates and that -- pleases himself (his Libra particularly) and others greatly (because they sense this balance-ness to him and flock to him).

Anyways his Sun (ego/sense of self/esteem) is expressed through his action/work/physicality (externalized outwards through Mars outlet, which is always great!)

Sun (Virgo) - Trine - Uranus (Capricorn)

This is Namjoon fighting for the underdog, being the underdog and trying to change the system. (From pre-debut till now -> onwards as well)

He has perfect understanding between his head/sense of self (Sun) and his social consciousness (Uranus) -- of what he wants to do, and what he has to do as well (wanting to do things - tangibility, earth signs)

It’s also creating a voice for others in the world, Virgo here is serving the world by making part of it’s purpose a tangible creation/effort. 

Uranus is generous and often selfless, while Virgo’s sympathetic dedicated nature serves his inner purpose. 

He often reflects about himself (Sun) in relation to the world (Uranus), connecting himself to the creation of the universe and all things around/in it.  

His creation and effort, no matter how long it takes he wants to make an effort to create a safe space (Virgo-Capricorn- externalization, external organization/project, effort, structure) for others. 

Sun (Virgo) - Trine - Neptune (Capricorn)

A part of his inspiration and nature is just--- bringing the ideal into reality. 

It’s that Neptune subconsciousness combined with his internal sense of self (Sun). 

He’s able to create and mold pieces of work that’s delicate and detail-oriented, crafted because of this Virgo Sun channelling the steady, sturdiness of Capricorn Neptune.

A lot of the time his thoughts and ideals are related to reality. Concepts of love, nature around him, the universe, people, theories and ideals. 

Neptune mod. ruler in Pisces, there’s a lot of empathetic nature that’s highlighted in his Virgo Sun. And if we’re talking about Pisces other qualities (trad. Jupiter rulership) the ‘serving’ nature here is emphasized just as much as well. 

Namjoon’s a very giving person, but the part that gives him hindrance is usually the friction having an earth-earth combination brings. Like he has the ‘in touch intuition’ but sometimes Capricorn makes it harder to manifest smoothly. Since it’s ground-ground influence, it feels like dragging your feet across the floor sometimes.    

Sagittarius Moon | 2nd Decan (Mars/Aries) 

I think we all know Sag moon’s need for activity. 

It’s like, photosynthesis with them. They’ve reached that stage in the maturity/growth (as the oldest fire sign/one of the oldest sign in the zodiac) to be able to digest nourishment through their intellectualism+ fuel their inner sense of self that way.

 They still need stimuli for sure, but that stimuli can be from people/culture/seemingly nothing/external environment/concepts. 

It’s expansive this way. That’s the top-tier fire sign level. Expansion in what they can digest/photosynthesize.  

(Sagittarius) They’re more of the type to get up and go, take in the natural sunlight/environment and create their own self-fulfillment from there. Again, this is where their independency/needing personal space comes from as well.

There’s still the distinguishable ‘me’ attitude that fire-sign has. Unlike the Aries Moon who’s ‘me’ attitude comes from tugging/pulling others to become motivated (link up to their energy- Mars), 

Or the Leo Moon who’s ‘me’ attitude comes from acknowledging/parrying other’s response to them/persuading them to self-express their inner self (Sun)

The Sagittarius Moon’s ‘me’ attitude comes in the intellectual kind/mentally stimulating kind (Jupiter). 

Open-mindedness, intellectual resourcefulness, teaching sharing and creating a direction to go towards together is important to them.

They’re also generous and absolutely opinionated. 

He would not back down from helping another, Sagittarius Moon actively encourages/expand on other member’s positive qualities. Jupiter shines a light on other’s strength. 

He always tries his best to make the public endeared by those he adores, generally through demonstrating his own personal affection for them. 

Kind of like a little kid who’s introducing his friend to his parents, absolutely adore his friends, want his parent’s approval of them too.

Anyways, this can sometimes come with the price of emphasizing his clumsiness/contrasting personality to bring this light forward. 

Jupiter always has this sense of depending on others, or depending on each other (collaborative - social planet). Better halves. 

As much as individuality is focused in Sagittarius/Jupiter, emphasizing their difference (how they make each other better) their own individuality gets to shine better this way. 

When it seems like their difference is building (learn/grow) on each other’s strength/weaknesses, the end result seems to be a win-win situation for both of them. (Optimistic/positive - generous and sharing)

Namjoon’s generosity is absolutely understated, but it’s a huge part of having a Sagittarius Moon. His emotion is tied to how he can help others, grow from others and (with his Sun) sometimes even serve a purpose together as well. 

As part of a social planet (Jupiter) it’s about collaborating and contributing (individually) to a bigger purpose. Maybe not like Aquarius/ Uranus, but it definitely brings a brighter light/emphasis to his sense of self/purpose. (It’s shining light on the better part of things, people, themselves, others -- it might not be prominent but it’s underlying in all his actions/subconscious thoughts somehow) 

As part of his Moon, he identifies himself with a ‘purpose’ (Sun-Moon aspect, even if the relationship is square- it’s still aspected)

Virgo might be his vulnerable side, underneath Sagittarius’s outward optimism and enthusiasm. A harder, fiery outer core to his inner personality.

It’s all a part of him really, but he protects himself better with this Moon.  If he moves fast enough, hard enough with this Sagittarius then the damage his Virgo take is lessened. 

There’s a common goal between Virgo and Sagittarius, helping others around them helps themselves. In a sense, they want to help people find their own footing + through their success stories, they often feel inspired/proud to find their own successes as well. See that it’s possible, that is a practical dream. And they want to achieve that. 

Virgo finds serving others self-serving to their values/purpose, while Sagittarius finds helping others serving to fuel themselves, teach/grow into their own person.  

With Sagittarius being in his Moon Namjoon’s purpose/pride has to do with self-discovery. 

Growing and learning, adapting and changing in order to teach/grow into his own person. 

He already knows who he is, to an extent. Sagittarius Moon tends to have this identifying thing where they know best/what’s good for them intuitively (fire-sign tends to think they do). Even though they can’t actually answer a straight question (about who they are really), they can demonstrate it outwardly through consistency and demonstration/action.

They realize they have a pattern, like a routine or specific behaviour they do. And that’s their most identifying trait- the pure unadulterated joy they have for certain things. Their natural buoyancy. (Sagittarius Moon - that’s his identity)

In a way it’s his openness and sincerity. He can’t hide his Sagittarius Moon’s happiness. It helps since his Virgo-Capricorn can be intimidating a lot of the time. 

When he’s happy, he lights up. The eyebrow raise, the eyes crinkling, the joy and openness to his expression-- that’s part of the Sagittarius Moon. He can’t hide that. 

The way he bops his head along to a song, the way he bounces when he’s excited. That’s the most unadulterated version of his Sagittarius Moon behaviour. That’s what he identifies with, and what he pushes forward. (Inner core- outer crust, Sun-Moon. But also self-identity with the Moon.) 

He’s heavy-handed with helping others, even sometimes to the extent of acting brashly/naively. He’s enthusiastic about it, optimistic to be able to participate and see others grow. 

He wants to see others be better versions of themselves, because he himself wants to see it reflected in his own transition as well.

You know, it’s sort of a mirror thing. Like, if he can spread this kind of enthusiasm and open-minded idea. This feeling he has inside of himself, to others around him (by teaching them the same kind of courtesy/respect) -- then he himself can achieve it too. (benevolent but also ‘me’ attitude)

Manifesting, watering, putting in work to help others. He can see that it’s working for them, and that in turns motivate/inspires him (fire sign stimuli) to achieve his own success as well.  

He’s enlightened, positive and absolutely supportive of those close to him. 

Joonie thrives and live off of this placement, his emotions are key to his sensitivity and his connection to the outside world.

Know how he can sometimes appear to exhibit childish trait or aegyo-like behaviours (without meaning to - instantaneous behaviour) That’s when a Sagittarius feels most comfortable developing into themselves. 

Especially in a Moon placement where the lighter trait of Sags are exaggerated. Unlike Jin’s Sagittarius Sun, Namjoon’s Sagittarius Moon is like a child version of Jin that lends itself to being absolutely adored and loved (endearing, Jin is as well but Joon can’t control it).

Sagittarius Moon: Developing and Growing

In Sagittarius there’s an innate knowledge within themselves that- if they can afford to work hard in maturing one self. Doing the things they deem ‘necessary’: they can also afford to find happiness/gentle nature in just living innocently and purely, within the world by being themselves when the time calls as well. (Sagittarius living in nature, appreciating travels and exploring/expanding themselves) 

Namjoon’s ability to see through his own past/bullshit can be hard to come by (redeeming himself when he makes mistakes) but I’m inexplicably proud of him when he overcame those challenges and connects his inner purpose this way.

Sagittarius, when they’re at their best, are comfortable in the position where they aren’t stuck in the past/the future of their actions. They’re comfortable knowing that there’s more to life than who they are now. 

Once the presence starts to be filled with regrets for past actions (’why did i do that today’) they want to move on/forget about the situation. This isn’t really good for the Sagittarius, because it’s lending itself to ‘running away’ from the situation/being flakey to themselves. 

Consistency, at least to themselves is what the Sagittarius native has to learn. They can’t just run away from their problems or rely on their future changes to not feel guilty/embarrassed/regretful about their past. 

Confrontation isn’t their strong suit (especially if it’s personal) but in order to build something out of themselves/end a chapter in their life properly (as a mutable sign) they have to become sturdier. 

Think of it as progression from 9th house to 10th house. What does the Sagittarius have to learn, in order to progress into Capricorn? It’s the final resolution, the confrontation within themselves. It’s using that sincerity/honestly they give outwards to other people all the time, to be fair/just to themselves inside as well. 

It does have to do with justice, Sagittarius Moon gets really riled up by injustice in their environment/towards others. But when it comes to evaluating what they’re putting themselves down for, they tend to gloss over it/make it into an exasperated joke. 

Sagittarius uses humor to deal with a lot of things, and learning how to be just/fair to themselves is such a crucial thing for Sags.  

That’s why self-love is such a large lesson/concept for Namjoon (to learn), it ties down to his inner core as well. The Sagittarius Moon here has to learn to accept/grow into loving itself, slowing itself down, to be reaching out to his other placement (compromising), be open-minded to himself-- to actually be fair to himself as well.  

A lot of the time Namjoon can be too hard on himself and doubtful of his own worth. 

While Sagittarius protects his ego (sun) by overplaying the optimistic, generous demeanor. Self-love, self-care, fairness to himself/his evaluation of himself-- the sincerity/honesty he shows to others should be spread inside to himself as well. 

Balanced inside and outside. Because just like this, the Sagittarius is just subvert all the time (to others). It needs to be balanced, because if it shifts from subversion to inversion: he becomes selfish, high-strung on his opinion, unable to give anyone a chance because it compromises his chances. 

Learning how to compromise, deal with the problem, confront and acknowledge the problem itself is a lesson Sagittarius has to adapt to. 

Scenario: to make up for the Sun being so critical/self-analytical, the Sagittarius Moon here talks loudly to distract from the actual problem. It’s trying to make the atmosphere better, but it’s a short term solution. 

The opposite can also happen when it’s tilted (inversion/subversion) Sagittarius Moon become strongly defensive and absolutely maniacal of it’s own opinion/thoughts. Sullen, isolationist and selfish. 

Even though he can swing between being generous and being selfish, the lesson lies in being both at the same time-- towards himself and towards others. 

He can’t deal with this duality in separate sections, the bad comes with the goods. He can’t keep them separated because it causes fissure. And this just makes the tilting even harder for him to bear. Makes it more confusing and creates more problems for himself.

See its-- being a bigger person. It’s not a child anymore (the younger sign) it’s about combining all his parts together to start maturing. It’s at the edge/the crust of jumping into the MC. 

The separation thing can’t last. That’s the lesson Scorpio already taught through it’s transformation. Sagittarius here has to gather up it’s lessons, evolution as a person and mold it together. To create the grounded stable Capricorn for the next progression y know.  

Learning/growing, or teaching himself how to accept his maniacal side and his generous side in equal part (to himself and to others at the same time). 

How to be both at the same time (demonstration), reaches a stage of completion that Sagittarius has to learn how to do. That’s one of the ways Sagittarius Moon can progress into managing themselves better. 

Sagittarius Moon: Libra Mercury (On the Same Side)

I touched a little on Namjoon’s response to with the TaeJin fight in Burn The Stage:  since Sagittarius is Namjoon’s emotional response, sometimes when they’re faced with other people’s conflict they can tend to whine and complain a lot.

They offer practical solutions, but in their flair of exaggeration and dramatics, it tends to come across as them complaining- whilst trying to philosophize about life to the recipients. 

They are however, very active and willing to communicate. There’s a part of them that feels trusted/chosen as mediator between fights since Sagittarius has an innate need for justice and combined with Libra Mercury, they need to get to the bottom of things. 

Whilst Libra does it more for the purpose of connecting to others, creating external balance and serving justice/attention to details, Sagittarius’s tends to come from a place that’s more about learning from others and objectifying the fight for a bigger purpose (which makes them seem preachy sometimes) 

They want to evaluate all kind of solution and expand their mind, they can tend to be abit more judgmental but never in a mean way. 

Sometimes people get really fed up with their style of mediation because while Libra actually focuses on the person/situation at hand, Sagittarius and Aquarius are already trying to hypothesize the solution to the fight for ‘future references’ sometimes. 

It’s more to do with Libra/Venus talking about direct social relations, while Sagittarius-Aquarius/Jupiter-Uranus talks about the bigger purpose/social groups in life. 

They’re more of the complain-y, head-strong in their opinion kind of mediator. Although they try to be open-minded, they have a hard time coming out of their introspection/relating to other people with different circumstances than they do.

He’s saved by that Libra Mercury, but we all know Namjoon uses his Sagittarius Moon to make a lot of his decisions even if it’s ill-advised sometimes. (See Libra Section for more on Libra - Sag relationship)

The part we respect about Namjoon is when he uses his other placement: his Libra Mercury, his Scorpio Venus and even his Cancer Mars. 

The part we’re endeared by Namjoon: is his Sagittarius Moon. 

Sagittarius as a fire sign (especially in his moon) constantly agitate the other placement by rushing out the door and screaming ‘can’t be tamed’. So when the other placement actually get their hands around Sagittarius Moon, it serves him better because he’s not letting the Wild Child run loose all the time.   

Has a need for a public response, you can see it in the way he turns to look and talks to the camera crew often during the behind the scene of run ep. 54 (linked to vlive channel+)  as well as expressing himself often through yelling, flailing of limbs and dramatic responses.

Sagittarius Moon: Virgo Sun - Bickering (+ Libra Mercury)

There’s also the innate need for Sagittarius here to have some personal space and freedom from the team, and individuality that stands out from others. 

It’s similar to the Capricorn with-drawing itself in the Virgo Sun, but with a Sagittarius it’s even more prominent because his mood is directly affected by it (Moon). He can easily get agitated/frustrated when his ‘alone time’ or ‘off-duty’ time is disrupted. 

His concentration breaks fairly easily, Sagittarius as a mutable sign tends to be focused/driven for certain period of time before needing a distraction (to ‘freshen up’/’restart’)

It also emphasizes his sense of humour, or his need for having sense of humour in his life. A part of why he gets along so well with Jin (and Jungkook) is their ability to provide an environment/crack jokes that he can build on. 

Mutability in this sense, is feel comfortable enough to add onto the situation or mold himself to what’s established (’time for cracking jokes’) It makes him happier, and a lot more easy-going. 

His moods can shift depending on his company, but more importantly what certain people impresses on him. With people who he categorizes as ‘serious business’ type of deal, he can be really awkward trying to shift them into ‘joking ok??’ type of people. 

Sagittarius aren’t all that adaptable when combined with Virgo Sun, in fact Sagittarius in the Moon position tends to have a harder time adapting to others than they are to themselves (ability to bounce away from regretful past choices/action, that’s adapting to themselves)

While he is indeed very generous and opened to listen to others. Sagittarius Moon requires consistency from others because that’s part of the ‘impression’ they make/categorize others in. The mutability in this part, is for themselves. Their ability to bounce back from a bad interaction/protect themselves from others, not let others take advantage of their generosity/kindness.

If they categorize you as someone who’s not going to be kind to them, then they’ll react accordingly. In a way, this is Sagittarius protecting themselves, but they also need to balance themselves better as well.  

Let’s look at his overall placement: Part of why Namjoon is coping so well with the heavy Virgo-Capricorn Sun is because of this Sagittarius Moon. Despite it being in conflict (square) with his Sun, the Sagittarius here provides motion to drive forward/move on in his life and not be so stagnant in his past/mistakes/analyzing himself.

The problem with Sagittarius Moon arises when he over-relies on this motion/driving force, and not enough in developing it further past that. 

The being ‘stagnant in his past/mistakes/analyzing himself’ mostly has to do with being in public, Virgo’s mistakes oxidizes and becomes self-critical when it’s exposed to air/judgement of others around them. 

Sagittarius Moon is trying to make Virgo care less about the public, how it’s perceived/the tiny details that didn’t bother them until they’ve been introduced to society/the everyday others.

The idea is that they should all be allowed to be themselves, truly and freely. But Sagittarius doesn’t acknowledge Virgo’s strength (atleast communication wise/aspect) Virgo wants Sagittarius to acknowledge the good part about caring about the public-- putting in extra effort into caring for others. 

Virgo replied in the way Sagittarius communicate with them (that’s what is established in this dynamic.) Virgo points out Sagittarius’s flightiness, suggesting that the resolution to that is by ‘putting more consistency into it’. 

Here’s where the miscommunication starts, because the way Sagittarius communicate is very fire-sign like. It was aimed to cheer or encourage Virgo up. Fire them up, motivate them. See my example and do the same. But the way Virgo replies/says it back doesn’t work the same way. 

Virgo is an earth sign, it learns from observation and example. The way they communicate doesn’t focus on firing people up like Sagittarius does. It’s through dry effort, practical solution and being there for others (time/endurance demonstration, not immediate/impactful fire starter). 

It can be very dry, critical and seems to the fire sign Sagittarius like it’s just retaliating because it’s hurt. Sagittarius takes this as a stimuli cue (because fire signs reads atmosphere rather than people/words) and is hurt by the response. 

Basically, it’s a miscommunication thing (square aspect). Virgo and Sagittarius are hurt because the other only points to their mistakes (the biggest trait/flaw in each sign) doesn’t want to acknowledge the strength. So it’s an argument without compromising because their communication (aspect) is the issue here.  

So how does this all ties into Namjoon? 

Namjoon probably relies on his Sagittarius Moon alot. Mostly because its the part of him that is his subconscious. He relates to it, identifies with it. His Virgo Sun (Scorpio Venus/Cancer Mars) makes up a larger part of his conscious. But his subconscious is the part he truly self-identifies with, because it holds his emotions (which Cancer Mars/Scorpio Venus plays into as well)

He knows where his emotions come from, how he reacts, his anger, his joy, his motivation and thoughts/progression. The Sagittarius here is like a breath of fresh air to him, allowing him to fight-- sometimes wield it, like a sword towards the clinginess of Virgo (trying to make him focus/analyze himself) or Scorpio/Cancer (trying to cling him onto the past/dig deeper into things and drown in it).

He uses the fiery nature of Sagittarius like a weapon, clings onto it’s warmth because it probably gives him comfort and identity. Stability in his life. He identifies with the fiery nature of Sagittarius because he can understand where it’s from (his emotions/inner self). It’s himself, and he tries so very hard to accept it. 

It’s both his greatest strength but also the part he’s exasperated/confused about as well. He doesn’t understand that, not everything about the Sagittarius makes up his entirety/who he is. By loving/looking at the light of Sagittarius he forgets to look more into his conscious-- the Virgo/Scorpio/Cancer part of himself as well. 

It’s like plato’s allegory of the cave, he’s known of this Sagittarius all his life, the reliance in his Virgo/Scorpio/Cancer is distracting to him. 

It’s the inverse of the allegory, Namjoon distracted by the light Sagittarius brings, he can sometimes be very confused/forgot to acknowledge the shadows that supports the light (Virgo/Scorpio/Cancer) literally the more stable part of himself. 

Rather than Sagittarius being a part of himself (permanently), it’s more like a weapon/limb he can utilize to cut off parts of himself he’s frustrated about (Virgo/Scorpio/Cancer) 

Hence, it feeds into the self-confusion, because he probably holds this Sagittarius at a distance from everything else (Virgo/Scorpio/Cancer) y know?

The only thing this Moon aligns with is his Mercury (see below: Moon-Mercury aspect) 

Mercury, once it’s endorsed by the Sun, becomes strengthened. (see above: Virgo Sun - Mercurial influencing Libra Mercury)

And that wind (air - Libra) blows the flame of Sagittarius Moon even more. 

The Sun - Moon aspect (Square) here is the Sun going ‘wait no that’s not what you’re supposed to do with that power’ and the Moon who’s already gained strength from Mercury is going ‘sike! I have it now, see ya later suckers’ and doing it’s own thing.

 So really, when Namjoon’s going ‘why did you do that Namjoon’ it’s usually that kind of Virgo Sun consciousness.

Libra Mercury fueling his Sagittarius Moon and his Sagittarius Moon running it’s mouth/action without the permission from the rest of his  body/placements/consciousness.

Libra Mercury is literally enabling his Moon. While the collective consciousness of Namjoon is going ‘wait Namjoon why did you do that!’ 

Aspects

Moon (Sagittarius) - Sextile - Mercury (Libra)

The Power Couple, this aspect makes up a lot of Namjoon’s habit we tend to notice. From his shade-y sass, facial expression, his buoyancy to how absolutely adorable he is. 

Sagittarius expressiveness is emphasized through Mercury’s self-expression, making him very animated person when he talks. It’s externalized outward even more, but this time it’s groomed slightly by Libra. 

He manifest his better quality through the good light of Libra (social relation) and Sagittarius (open-mindedness/optimism/justice). 

An alignment between his mind and his emotion makes him very conscious of what’s in his Moon/what it produces, again this is great because it makes him very intune and emotionally expressive. At the same time, his self-confusion (Sun-Moon square) can make communication inside of himself harder to bear, in contrast to how he comes across outwardly (Moon-Mercury). 

The center point of this is the Moon -- so self-identity can come from his Moon instead of his Sun most of the time (his Sun has aspects to Uranus/Neptune and not his inner-planets)

It’s like you see yourself doing so well externally (communicating wise) but internally you’re confused at why you’re so bad at it (miscommunication) 

So there’s a little bit of -- frustration there that’s emphasized because this part (Moon-Mercury) is going so well for him. 

Anyways, more with the good stuff. Moon-Mercury aspect is great because he might not know what he’s saying all the time but he’s very enthusiastic about communicating/talking it out. 

Especially with Sagittarius-Libra, he likes sharing it with others and encouraging others to do the same. 

He’s sincere about himself and others, and although he can sometimes be moody/sullen/private (due to his moods) he always tries his best to be fair to others by acknowledging e his vices, imperfections, etc.

In a way,  he’s probably learning/growing/trying to develop his Sagittarius-Libra through this aspect.

He can gain so much from this combination, because Libra doesn’t let Sagittarius become too ‘rowdy’ while Sagittarius loosen Libra up a bit. 

There’s also genuine masculine energy from this combination, because of their polarity being masculine (Libra/Sagittarius). 

Air and fire works well together, Libra being a cardinal sign is slightly more laid back with Sagittarius around. Libra leads and grooms, takes action and shapes Sagittarius while Sagittarius finds the ‘muse’ or enthusiasm for different things. It’s like, sibling dynamic. 

But without their parents there’s always that instability/balance between them because Libra (as an air sign) can’t rely/depend on Sagittarius to come through during crisis time.  

So while Namjoon is great that shaping, adapting and leading discussion (instigating it) he’s also a bit-- loose and needs that stability/ground to stand on when things gets out of hand as well (which is where Yoongi, Hoseok, Jin, comes in.)

The way Namjoon deals with things is similar to Jimin, like if there’s a crisis they discuss/collaborate what to do together. Without earth (Yoongi’s virgo moon/Hoseok’s taurus moon) or the more forceful cardinal sign (Aries/Capricorn/Cancer) it’s like they can have a moment of panic and feeling lost (mutable) before acknowledging what to do y know.

There’s also the consequence of not being well-equipped to handle heavy emotional discussions. Unless it’s instigated by him or he’s prepared for it. The masculine energy between air-fire focuses on doing/activities, doesn’t have time to sink deeper like earth-water do. 

He is however, very observative and curious about others. 

As much as he talks, he’s willing to listen. 

He loves discussion because it fuels him (emotionally/mentally), he loves connection (Libra). 

People’s word, their body language, the little tic and traits in others he often picks up on. Especially with that Scorpio Venus, he can be very shrewd with people.  

Moon (Sagittarius) - Square - Saturn (Pisces) (R)

RM ‘always’ mixtape: ‘i’m living to understand the world but why hasn't this world tried to understand me?’ oof what a mood.

Trust is a big issue here, 

With Sagittarius-Pisces trad. ruler being Jupiter, the problem arise when he feels like there’s a lack of appreciation/respect for him from the world itself/everyone is turning their backs on him. 

See, as much as Sagittarius-Pisces positive traits are focused on adapting, generosity, expansiveness/transcendentalism, sharing/caring for others (sympathetic open-handedness) 

The problem is they feel like it’s not being given back to them. And they have to push to earn it back (Saturn). From an authority, a bigger public, a power beyond themselves/their sense of self. It’s daunting and challenging.  

Because he gives so much to others, he doesn��t want to be taken advantage of (Moon- fears). His emotion is going through trials, he doesn’t want to stop adapting/changing/shifting, but Saturn brings lessons he has to faces.

Most of the lesson has to do with perseverance, consistency, finding it within himself. 

There’s a fear of personal relationship, of commitment that he can’t keep up, that’s part of Sagittarius Moon’s deepest fear. 

Having this Saturn-Moon aspect brings it to the forefront.

Namjoon is well-aware of his fears, his lack of strength/vulnerabilities and weakness. He lives with it in this Moon-Saturn aspect. 

The light of the moon shines on the lessons Saturn bring, it’s like catching a glimpse of the grim reaper in the corner of your eyes every time you’re trying to enjoy itself. It’s lingering and with Pisces there, it’s reflective of his inner subconscious even more (12th house/Neptune)

It’s also fear of receiving the nurture/care he craves (Neptune) because there’s always suspicion there.

Sincerity, generosity, the same open-minded/open-handedness they crave they think it’s harder to come by because of Saturn’s influence/lesson plans/challenges. 

He doesn’t think he’s ‘enough’ and  is suspicious of being tricked. His rigidity to others (when people try to hug him or show him genuine affection, you can see it when the members compliment him ‘too much’ he gets really rigid) can even come across in his self-expression, but most prominently in his facial expressions (moon). 

Self-doubt is a prominent theme with this aspect, and you can see how it plays out so much in Namjoon’s life. 

His own self-worth, his easy acceptance of criticism that are completely unfounded hurled at him, his sympathetic and giving nature that isn’t extended towards himself (such a Pisces Saturn- Sag Moon thing)-- makes it harder to accept genuine love and support from others because of this Moon-Saturn aspect.

They’ve been conditioned since early childhood (Saturn doesn’t stop/start at a certain age) to expect negatives, challenges, difficulties. Even when looking forward to the future, they’re always trying to balance/counteract the negativity instead of inviting the positives. 

This is because Sag-Pisces wants the positive to come, but what they can do to help is ‘tackle’ the negatives. This method instead, manifests/invites the negative stuff even more to themselves. 

It’s like someone who has a negative aura around them and says negative thing isn’t going to invite positive things to them from others y know? It doesn’t work that way. So their self-projection/counteracting this negative problem isn’t going to help them in any way. 

The lesson Saturn is truly trying to give here, is the strength to overcome the negativity. To project positivity into their life. Because Sagittarius and Pisces both have so much potential/resource for it already. 

They’re literally two of the most positive signs in the entire zodiac. It doesn’t make sense that they would feel so defeated by what? big bad Saturn? No, the point of this lesson is to use their best trait, their positivity and power-- empower themselves with that. 

Stop being doormats. Saturn is illuminating them in the worst light (Sagittarius-Pisces as their worst) so to counteract that, they have to show their positive/best trait. Project it outwards. Actively stand up for themselves. Be able to face their fears, show vulnerabilities (Pisces-Sagittarius) be open to accepting love from others. 

To gain strength from themselves is to overcome Saturn. To be emotionally vulnerable and available to receiving other people’s love, that’s part of empower themselves. That’s what Saturn wants. 

Libra Mercury | 2nd Decan (Uranus/Aquarius)

It’s no wonder his Libra Mercury is working so well with his Sagittarius Moon. 

When it comes to emphasizing with others/understanding things from another’s perspective (air), his emotions (moon) and thoughts (mercury) collide- bringing  forward a genuine way of phrasing things. Because he can stand behind it. He understands it, he’s opened himself up to receiving it like a bowl being filled with water (emotions-thoughts) 

The earlier Moon-Mercury aspect really is serving him well here. That can’t be understated, it’s probably one of his most powerful/well-used aspect as well. 

With Libra Mercury, their verbal expression (externalized) is relating to things. An ability to express thoughts/opinions outwardly that’s definitely going to make people feel like they’re being represented/respected sincerely by him.  

Self-expression geared towards understanding the person. Libra as a Venus ruled planet, focuses on social relationships. One on one relationship+conversations, as well as how others come across socially/publicly. What we relate to and what we try to stay away from. 

Libras are critical of these tiny details, they’re able to pick up on it at an almost intuitive level. Because their brains here are geared towards taking cues from these direct/atmospheric quality all the time. 

It definitely feeds into his observative nature, but more than anything it’s not overused. It’s a tool to help him navigate the social circle/crowd, and over-abundance of Libra can compromise a lot of his other placements that definitely wouldn’t benefit him in any way. 

Indecision comes from whether he’s going to choose to appease the person or appease the crowd. Who the audience is, who’s being mediated for. 

There’s a purpose to Libra, kind of like an identity/angular house. There has to be a recipient to a relationship, and who is he giving this information to has to be there for him to perform properly.

Moments when Libra doesn’t have this recipient/audience is when Namjoon probably uses his Scorpio/Sagittarius the most. When the audience is directed/aimed at us, it slips into this Libra Mercury. 

Making it seem smoother and more complacent than the actual issue being addressed. The style in which he does thing, is directed by Libra.  

When Libra is in the sign of Mercury, they are analyzing the person and what is being said. They can find themselves making direct contact with the person in question (source) and listening to them, or mediating naturally (with their consent or without) between two people. Libra Mercury need this contact (from source) in order to pull their own analysis into context. 

(Namjoon being observative of the person - Virgo Sun, as well as his natural enthusiasm for learning - Sagittarius Moon, also brings a genuine focus/sincerity and genuinity to this Libra part as well)

Part of Libra Mercury’s argument is based around direct quote + atmospheric context. That’s how they come across as such good mediator or diplomatic, because they know how to weave evidence and substantial frame of reference together. It’s not intuition, it’s analytical.  

They can find themselves quoting/repeating what the person said (paraphrase) and adding outer context to the information to explain it back to the person themselves. Things like, how other people are receiving it, social custom, conditions/connections. Social conditioning/frame of reference is their go-to sources of back-up information.

If it’s not something they have knowledge about prior/unsure about, they rely on feelings instead. (Jimin’s prominent Libra Sun/Mercury as clue to his focus/Libra nature)

Feelings are sure-fire way to relate to others. Because you can’t deny emotions, it’s purely subjective and personal to everyone. It’s something that we all share, yet at the same time we can’t disprove or deny. (Subjective to the person, but also objective as a concept?)

So if they explain it as an additional context (relate/put themselves in another’s shoes) -- it’s a very direct way or relaying it back to the person they’re giving advice to.  

Libra mercury is an air-sign, so heavy handed emotional talks/intimacy earth/water sign might want can be hard for them to relate to/understand. (Also ties/made difficult by Namjoon’s Virgo-Capricorn Sun- if it’s somehow working with each other/influencing each other - unaspected but if it ties in together/back each other, maybe?)

Their way of consoling someone mostly consists of giving practical advice, or relying on these ‘back up resources of information’ (substantial things) instead. 

They can seem kind of invested in the rectifying of mistakes, or being truthful/honest in order to solve the problem. Rather than the person themselves or what they’re asking for (emotional concern, a pat on the shoulder, some kind of sensitivity)

This is just how Libra is as a Mercurial sign. It’s prevalent in their other placements as well (even in Venus) so while they do think emotion is a great source to rely on/back up from-- their connectivity to it can be limited to how useful it is. 

And a surface-level understanding of it’s importance (personally/socially) instead of actually relying/living in it (like water-signs do).  

Libra Mercury: Nature/Development -> Progression

Libra as a cardinal sign sees shifting opinions/ideas as part of the process, to reach the true conclusion rather than an indecision on their part. 

When Namjoon thinks about things, it’s rarely a conclusive thought. He’s always on-going in the process of shifting/adapting, the thoughts he has are his identity at the moment, but he is always searching/growing for more. 

Cardinal energy of a Libra is through that directness and truthfulness they have to themselves, they don’t actively think of themselves as Venus-signs. They aren’t afraid to play devil’s advocate or even just be contrary to prove the point they’re trying to make (without rocking the boat too much, within controllable bounds/conditions).

In fact the whole point is that true balance/harmony can’t be achieved, unless they instigate it/demonstrate it through their actions (throwing chaos into the mix sometimes).

Libra is a cardinal sign because of this fearlessness. They aren’t afraid of the consequences/danger of the process, because they know that the end goal is to be harmonious/peaceful (before it crashes into chaos again). This wave that keeps going, this shift/adaptation is part of why they’re the air-sign of the cardinal/angular house. 

They aren’t afraid and they emphasize/light up the positive (harmonious) despite engaging in the chaotic part of the cycle as well. It’s why Libra comes before Scorpio, because this little wave-cycle they have going on is simplified. Scorpio brings an entirely different type of transformation to Libra, an overwhelming one that they can’t control. And to Libra, loosing that faith/balance and stability (their reliance on their back up resources) is terrifying. Their little doll house; the suburban neighborhood with the minor little details/conflicts (chaos) they can control is falling apart. (that idle-ness they rely on)

This is world-changing/life changing personally. It’s the horizon (DSC/7th) finally coming into the sunlight/daytime. The shift from personal to social that Libra is starting to sink it’s feet into makes them grow, adapt, lose control. That instability in their life is what draws Libra into turmoil.

So yeah, Libra (in any placement) does rely a lot on the stability that they have. Doesn’t need to be material like the earth signs, or internal like the water-signs. They don’t like to be thrown off balance, or lose control (censored in their thought/speech) because they like to be in control of the situation. This is prevalent in both Namjoon and Jimin, not just because of this Mercury Libra they share together. (With Namjoon it’s also part of his Virgo/Capricorn pride/ego.)

They’re not angels like, they don’t actively consider themselves to be pure beings. They understand that balance/cycle and they live with it. The in-control aspect has a lot to do with ‘rocking the boat’ Libras are said to hate. It’s less about, playing devil’s advocate or something and more about doing things within bounds they can control. Even if it looks different to others. ( ‘woah this person is really said this x this x this’ versus ‘this person is indecisive/hasn’t made up their mind yet’ )

Going back to the point where they’re analytical of things that has to do with atmospheric quality, sometimes they’re so cunning and they use this to test others. They can sometimes play devil advocate occasionally, they know when to listen and when to talk, but sometimes they would talk for the purpose of getting the other person to participate in the conversation -- even just to tell them to shut up. That shrewd/observative nature to more than just what’s being said is absolutely ingenious (and indicative of Libra’s tactfulness) 

Libra is a good mercurial sign to be in mostly because it’s in between the naturally chatty/good natured Gemini (which rules Mercury so-- air signs have it good) and the fixed, heavy-hitting Aquarius.

 They know how to engage, push a little, but also how to let things go. That’s how they compromise, making a point (usually by pushing justice/fairness as the main topic onto others) before letting things go. 

Aquarius is said to be exalted in Mercury, Libra utilize the best of that ‘pushiness’ Aquarius Mercury has-- just enough, to make it’s point and then let go like a Gemini Mercury’s explosion/drop and go. They’re truly the middle child of the air-sign, and they really do fit in with their family (elemental signs) this way (sly, opportunistic and sometimes even sneaky).  

A part of Libra Mercury might be loosing track of/knowing their own mind/process (as much as they can connect/bring others together.) With themselves, they’re kind of lost on how they process things if it’s not in the now. They’re not retrospective/self-reflective because they’re constantly in the ‘now’ part of a lot of things.(Air)

A lot of their understanding of their own thought/minds comes from feedback/responses from others instead. This is the ‘support’ or ‘stimuli’ Libra takes, because unlike Gemini-Aquarius who focuses on object-to-object Libra focuses on person-to-person. The need for stimuli in another person is more prominent this way. 

Other people’s feed back serves as ‘stimuli’ -- it’s not like they’re taking the person’s word personally/directly because they like to weigh their options (indecision from other people’s perspective), but they’re always optimistically curious about what other people has to say/observe about them.

They keep themselves open this way, sometimes even coming off as unassuming/naive to their own thoughtful nature/tact in diplomacy because it creates a ‘bowl’ for other people’s opinions (’water’) to fill. 

This support/stimuli is crucial to them, as they gather response/support they feel fueled by it. (Most prominently is Jimin’s love for compliments/acknowledgement, Namjoon has a harder time accepting compliments/care that way because of his Moon-Saturn but also Mercury-Mars below)

From other people’s perspective this can come across as needing reassurance/validation, Jimin asks for it directly (Scorpio Venus/Gemini Moon). With Namjoon it’s in nervousness/anxiety that comes with it (Sag Moon on top - Virgo Sun/Cancer Mars). He fiddles or fills the air (distract) when he’s nervous/anxious about things.

Libra Mercury: Perfectionist 

Oh yeah and definitely within their own mind, there’s a perfectionist streak. It’s the attention to detail they pay outwardly to others (as explained above) they pick up inside of themselves as well-- with it being part of their mind, they tend to put themselves up to that standard even if it’s completely ideal/bonkers -- if they aim for it then it’ll become possible someday right? (Cardinal).

Comparison and criticizing themselves because the ideal is far from what their mind/themselves is capable of doing right now, they’re quite harsh to themselves because they always aim to pay attention to/care about the little details (atmospheric quality + what is being put out directly from their brain)

They’re their own biggest critic, and because it’s their thoughts/mind there’s no shutting that voice up. (Mercury)

While others might think they’re too harsh on themselves, the conflict inside the Libra Mercury is that they know they’re not being fair to themselves. Thats the whole entire problem, they know it but they can’t stop it. 

Because the way they go about doing things -- externalizing/expressing themselves has always been based around this constant evaluation, this critical analysis, this weighing and paying attention to the details and people.  

Once they pay attention to the people part it becomes a problem of holding themselves to a standard others wants to see from them (or what they think people want to see from them). They gain so much from people, as stimuli and as a purpose (to solve, mediate, to help) they need to give back. 

They need to push themselves harder, truly balance all the good they’ve received by giving others the best side of them at all times. And if they can’t do that-- then they’re not doing good enough right? 

It’s like, as much as they preach/give advice about apologizing to others and compromising, ending conflict through good resolution, giving practical advice to the end/conclusion of a fight: “if you did bad and you can see that you did bad then you have to apologize” -- that’s their go-to advice on how to end a fight/conflict. 

And yet to themselves, not being able to reach that standard/give back to other is the same as not apologizing, they see it as them doing bad. 

In this context, the answer to their problem is simple: reach that standard and you’ll be ‘apologizing’ (ending the conflict.)

If you can’t do that, then you haven’t repent fully yet, you’re still ‘bad’ because the other side haven’t heard your ‘apology’. It’s about that communication from themselves outward that’s the problem. That’s really coming into the mix here.

This is more prevalent in Jimin (directly) than Namjoon, just through broadcast alone. But thought process wise-- there’s a lot going on inside of Namjoon emotionally (from the moon) and personally (from the Sun) that he’s faced this type of opposition before (that saturn-aspect and Capricorn/Aquarius influence - trad. ruled by Saturn as well). 

He’s coping better with it because it’s never been an easy-part of himself to deal with. And he’s had faced this kind of opposition all his life already. He probably knows better than to just, rely on that voice inside his head alone. Which is why it’s kind of pushing him to use that Sagittarius Moon more as well (I guess it’s better than the two evil maybe).

Aspects

Mercury (Libra) - Square - Mars (Cancer)

Acts without thinking (Mars-Mercury) which can be a hit or miss without Namjoon. 

Usually it’s unintentional, playing into his clumsiness that Sagittarius Moon brings (focuses on the bigger things, impression rather than details, loses track of the smaller details/everyday life/now that his Mercury would’ve otherwise focused on)

He’s however, very enthusiastic and lively. Able to join/encourage harmonic quality to invite stability into his life (Libra-Cancer). 

This also plays into the dramatics/exaggeration his Sagittarius Moon already feels (and expresses) but with a Cancer Mars, his temperamental nature is put the fore-front as well, being unable to hide his facial expression/emotions when he’s frustrated or feeling restricted (that run episode where he’s accused of being the manito). 

A lot of energy put into throwing himself into work, particularly when he doesn’t want to over-think it (super analyze it like Mercury Libra wants to do) at the same time, when others have really great ideas he can go full-throttle on it even though the other is hesitance.

The Cardinal-Cardinal nature here pushes him forward in instigating stuff, not really into maintaining/seeing it to completion (in it’s ultimate form).

Scorpio Venus | 1st Decan (Mars-Pluto/Scorpio)

The lip biting? This gif set? 

Scorpio Venus have this energy about them that comes alive through their charisma. 

This rawness is facilitated from a motion (transformation) but also a drive for action (Mars trad. ruler). 

When it’s in Venus -- they have an allure that just seems so contradictory yet magnetizing to be around. 

Part of that power/drive that fuels Namjoon’s voice/rapping comes from this Venus (self-expression). It’s how he styles himself, but also his performance as well.

Jimin who has the same Scorpio Venus, you can see the way he sings and the way he dances (self-expression) is tied into this as well. 

With Jimin his Libra (ruler Venus) is pulling the power/force of this Scorpio into his mercury (singing style) and his dancing (Mars) is fueled by this love for self-expression 

Scorpio Venus: loves for dance, Scorpio Mars: how he dances (but also low key: igniting that love for physical self-expression through dance as well - Scorpio Venus)

Namjoon’s powerful rapping style comes from this Venus as well, how he expresses himself. With the rap-line, you can see the influence Mercury-Mars-Venus has. Namjoon with his Scorpio Venus, Yoongi with his Aries Venus, and Hoseok with his Pisces Venus (refer to their mixtapes)

Arguably, Scorpio ‘Motion’ is less of a straight-line like Cardinal signs (Aries) but more of a spiral. It feels like walking up a spiraling staircase without any knowledge of what actually lies at the end. 

The reason it’s contradictory/’spiral’ is because Scorpio’s aggression (Mars) drive/will-power is being channelled through Venus, the planet of social relationship. 

When it comes to externalizing this drive/will-power Scorpio Venus are heavy-handed with how they come across, their aura and intensity is aggressive (maybe not always stylistically, but the energy input/focus is there)

Scorpio Venus has a ‘magnetic allure’ because of this energy input, they’re subconsciously putting it out there. To other around them it’s kind of like ‘feelers’ for the native, whether the other person knows it or not they’re always trying to seek that same ‘energy/intensity’ that others might provide. These invisible feelers (energy output) latch onto others when they ‘connect’ or are ‘noticed’ by them.

It’s kind of like tentacles? But like invisible tentacles made up of energy. If you don’t share the same wave lengths with them you won’t notice anything out of the ordinary. 

But the moment these feelers ‘feel’ you/notice you, people are struck by how magnetizing they are because they’re (the energy) is an extension of the native (Scorpio Venus)-- directly contacting another person.

So if you think of these invisible tentacle feelers as Namjoon seeking the same energy output another person (Scorpio Venus seeking the same intensity/energy) the moment they latch onto someone/something, it’s a personal/direct connection from the Scorpio Venus to another (tentacles because it’s an appendage, a part of their personal identity)

This line of connection then allow the native (Scorpio Venus) to dive deeper into the other person, completely uncovering them, measuring them, feeling them out energetically and fueling this ‘will-power/drive’ into someone/something. 

Scorpio Venus ‘obsession’ isn’t a ‘baseless obsession’ at all, but like a permission to connect to others at their energy level. It only becomes prominent when they ‘latch on’ and have a ‘connection’ to someone/something.

They can’t have an obsession with something without that prior connection before hand, it doesn’t make sense to the Scorpio native. Scorpio seeks the deeper meaning, that intensity and that inner focus/drive. The core power they have inside themselves, they want to understand/learn about it. 

That’s why they seek it out/want to see it reflected in another person, so they can build that connection to them and try to investigate/figure it out from there as well. 

That’s part of why these feelers are invisible in the first place, it’s to screen through others who might not share the same energy/doesn’t understand them. 

The core focus here is on the self, through others. Understanding themselves and their energy level by seeing reflected/measured against another person, and being able (given permission/relationship) to investigate through two individual instead of just themselves. (7th house -> 8th house, trying to balance between the two)

They’re utilizing this social relationship Venus brings, to understand themselves through others. Learning lessons/values that are important to them, as well as transforming themselves, discovering who they are along the way.

They know themselves best, and Scorpio Venus are extremely loyal and steadfast people. It’s not easy connecting to anyone energetically and being able to search/scrutinize the deeper part of another person’s psyche. 

To get to this point, they know the other person had to go through a lot (whether they realize it or not) they’ll always try to repay it back in devotion and loyalty. Utterly and totally to the other person because that’s what Scorpio values.

They’re even-handed and generous with what they give back to others, even though their motivation can seem kind of selfish at first. They have no qualms giving others precious things if they know it means a lot to them, an eye for an eye and a heart for a heart is the Scorpio’s motto. The price is paid in full, no debt afterwards. They don’t like having regrets later. 

Scorpio Venus: Developing/Transforming 

A part of how they are utterly devoted/loyal is because the driving force/will power is focused on being self-disciplining as well. 

When they focus on a certain goal that has to do with others (like benefiting others without themselves reaping the rewards) they’re utterly selfless. 

Scorpios who haven’t discovered this part of themselves yet can feel like they’re unstable/unbalanced-- seeking stability and needing to constantly ‘energy check’ with others in order to stabilize themselves out. 

It’s part of why they feel out of control of spiraling into a mess sometimes, because their motivation/goals can still be about the self/me. 

When they focus more on the ‘others/them’ they begin to settle into their relationships better. It’s the transformative stage that Scorpio goes through in order to get to Sagittarius. 

That independency and happiness in solitude, that self-serving photosynthesis Sagittarius has. 

But also the bigger trait of Sagittarius such as teaching others/generosity aspect as well. Getting out of their own head and moving towards giving to others is the end goal for them. 

A lot of the time, because Scorpio is fixed, the travel-time is longer/harder to push through. The meat of the lesson is in the succedent houses/fixed signs, to let go of things and moving through the transformation/growth is the longest part of the story.

It’s like if you were to build a narrative between the cardinal, fixed and mutable signs -- the Cardinal is the character introduction, setting the scene, the beginning and it touches on the conflict a little. 

The Fixed is the progression of the story, how the plot progresses. Weaving the trouble into the main story-line, when everything is at the highest point of tension the climax happens. The fixed deals with this too, they progress through the climax and just as the problem resolve--

-- It goes into the Mutable, looking at the resolution of the story. The transformation that happened to the character, from the Cardinal till now, the unweaving of the problem and other context cues that slowly relaxes because of the resolution. It’s that extra chapter to the story that looks at things a few years later, or gives a hopeful ending.

But you know the story continues on, whether you’re reading/watching it or not because there’s always going to be a different chapter to read anyways.  

Anyways point being, Scorpio’s transformation chapter is long because there’s a lot to touch here. Whenever there’s a fixed sign it’s always a long arduous journey to find that climax and come to the conflict resolution part you know? When it’s mutable sign it’s finding a good part to end the story because THAT’S another problem all together. It’s not about finding the climax, it’s about resolving everything to a point where you’re satisfied/feels evened out with everything.

Scorpio Venus: Conclusion

There’s a warmth that comes with Scorpio Venus, as a water sign they connect with others this way. Those who know them well know that they are steadfast and warm, they’re dependable people (even if their life feels like a mess to themselves personally.)

It’s part of that Scorpio charm, because they’re so giving and tactile-- their opposite sign Taurus/rules Venus can give Scorpio Venus a similar sense of being good at love/intimacy even if they themselves don’t think they are (can grow to learn more about it.) 

Since they’re a Pluto/Mars sign, there’s always a kind of forcefulness to their interests. Whether it’s a person, people or hobby/object. They pursue their love/self-expression in a manner that’s driven and focused.  

It’s also part of building upon/sustaining the 7th house/DSC/Libra that talks about social relationship. Scorpio are good at relationship, they just have a hard time figuring it out. 

Because they gotta confront this ‘climax’ part of the story the narration is going into. And also multitasking themselves/their own transformation as well. Multitasking means putting their will-power/core-drive/energy into splits and that’s something Scorpios aren’t good at (but Sagittarius is). 

You can see this in Namjoon, but I’m explaining Scorpio Venus here first because I’m going to expand more on this in the NJ birthday series later.  (along with his fashion sense/choice because that’s a big thing to Namjoon)

Aspects

Venus (Scorpio) - Conjunct - Jupiter (Scorpio)

His social relationship depends a lot on giving to others, generosity and even-handedness. It’s about giving and receiving it back from others, that’s an equal relationship for him.

Always open to receiving/learning from others-- he connects to people socially and maintains his relationship with them through this trust/reliance on each other. At the same time, he can be extremely critical and wanting to see the ‘core value’ of people to fully trust them.

Surface level trust stems from mutual agreement and open-mindedness to each other, co-operation is a huge key here. But to actually maintain/have him back you up he has to really connect to you energetically as well. The intensity has to be there, you got to have depth and layers to your thinking, feelings, interpretations and thoughts. 

Again it’s that ‘mysterious’ thing Scorpio are attracted to, but dumbing it down a little it’s just layers. He has to know you’re conscientious and not a mindless corporate monster. 

Not weak-willed without your own sense of direction. There has to be that toughness there for him to depend on you/you depend on him. It has to be equal (Jupiter). 

Venus (Scorpio) - Trine - Saturn (Pisces) 

This is ...so surprising yet so heart warming to see

Having his love in a positive aspect to the planet of long-term establishment, this could point to how long lasting his love for his artistry/career is. 

Especially since both of these planets are in water-signs, his emotions runs deep and Pisces talks about artistry in particular. 

The intensity of Scorpio Venus (his love) channeled positively on long-term goals and plans into the arts. 

Pursuing music really was a life changing career goal for Namjoon. How deeply his love for music runs. 

Imagine younger Namjoon who just suddenly popped a presentation to his parents explaining why and how he should pursue a career in music.  Something so simple, yet so risky. It was just a thought, something that others sees it as ‘oh he’s probably going through a phase/wanting to try things out’ but having this aspect-- Namjoon probably has some idea of how deeply his love for the artistry ran, and he was willing to put his love on the line for this single chance.

It’s how he feel connected to others (Venus) it’s how he pulls his dreams (Pisces/Neptune) into reality (Saturn). 

Since they’re water signs, that’s some risky and tumultuous shit right there (emotionally). It’s like staring down a cliff into the dark stormy water below and trusting you’ll survive because you’re putting your trust/love/life on the line here. 

Music isn’t just a love for Namjoon, it’s something he breathes and consume. 

Scorpio intensity is so hard to describe, but it’s something you feel in your soul. Its your eyes opening for the first time, it’s that hitch in your breath and then the sharp inhale, it’s your senses coming alive--  including your heart and soul as well. 

It’s feeling like you could be caught at any time but you kept running anyways, with the frigid wind whipping your face and finger tips slipping away clumsily from your hands as you laugh and try your best to run. 

Cancer Mars | 2nd Decan (Mars-Pluto/Scorpio) 

When he has a grudge, he doesn’t let shit go like ever. 

Like emotionally he does, but how it affects him personally is that he has to digest it and use it to transform himself.

The hurt and hate he receives, it becomes food/fodder for him to turn into self-improvement (Scorpio/Pluto - transforming himself)

He’s already critical of others, this Cancer Mars rarely lets anyone in unless he feels like he can share/connect to emotionally as well. 

There has to be balance/stability because Cancer Mars wants that in their life. Family and domestic scene is a big thing for Cancer Mars to feel comfortable with people. 

Cancer Mars with the influence of Scorpio finds themselves with an abundance of power they don’t always know what to do with. 

Namjoon constantly over-estimating his own strength is key to this since sometimes he can have emotional outbursts (from Sagittarius Moon) that ended up in flapping of hands/arms/legs. 

Cancer here makes trusting himself (particularly himself physically) even harder, because it tends to hide behind it’s shell or cower back from things it can’t control (outside of it’s shell). 

Validation/reassurance about how he looks/appears physically is also a part of this. Most people think it would have to do with Venus, but when Mars is in a sensitive/semi-vulnerable position insecurities regarding how we come across physically is more prevalent here.

In contrast Venus-aspects (harsh aspects) tends to talk more about vanity or excessive vanity in a person. Lack of vanity/physical appearance might have more to do with Mars. 

Anyways, that’s part of why they want stability/reassurance because it builds confidence/they feel in control of themselves that way. Trusting in themselves and coming out of their shell is encouraged through this example. 

Cancer-Scorpio natives are planners/schemers, Scorpio brings a sharpness/analytical to the Cancer’s sensitivity here-- heightening it to their external environment/how they come across. 

People around them are also observed and dealt with accordingly. Sometimes Namjoon can look at members interaction that’s going on and evaluate very quickly whether or not he should get involved/engaged with them. The shadiness he expresses in his face, the sheer sass that he projects is Cancer Mars dealing with things.

It’s also a part of his thoughtfulness/caring nature that’s exerted/shown outward. 

Because he shows it physically, it makes Cancer Mars dependable people others can rely on through demonstration/consistency. 

It creates stability for others to rely on them, although they’re not outwardly nurturing they are sensitive to other’s emotions/moods and always looks out/protect/shield them whenever they can.

Cancer Mars: Dealing with Shit

They can also behave in a very-- aggressively passive-aggressive way. Because it’s not like Libra who’s lingering on the indecision side of passive-aggressive, Cancer Mars knows why they’re frustrated/mad and they want to unleash it (Cardinal). 

But they have to connect to others first to make the first punch, like edge the other person on so they get the clue before they really serves in the punches. It’s really just frustration honestly.

It’s because they’re resistant to change and they don’t want to get hurt themselves, that’s why they edge other people on to make that change for them-- force themselves into a corner so they have to fight/retaliate back (thus cardinal to tackle the problem once it presents itself). 

It’s like boxing? you duck when the other is attacking and you throw a jab/punch in there to retaliate. The movement is similar to what Cancer Mars is trying to come across with. But in terms of-- emotionally and physically.

Jin does it too, but he has a Scorpio Mercury and he just kind of snaps at the other person directly (Capricorn Venus - socially tends to be pretty direct) Yoongi does it too, but he has so much Pisces Mercury/Sun in the Cancer decan it’s all suppressed under that Virgo Moon-- pressed into becoming a grudge. 

Namjoon’s the type to use his Sagittarius Moon first to react, raging and getting all up about it. If he feels like he can’t outright protest, he resorts to his Scorpio Venus’s analytical nature to figure out the best way to hit it (Mars trad. ruler Scorpio but also social relationship) and exert himself with this Cancer Mars. 

Out of all the Cancer Mars Namjoon seems to be the one who goes about it the most passive aggressively (which mean it’s working well for him) Jin just uses his Aries/Scorpio to direct it out immediately. While Yoongi is more of the wait and see grudgey type. 

Jin and Yoongi probably more of the type to go back into their shell when hurt and confront it themselves first, while Namjoon’s pridefulness (along with aspects such as his Mercury-Mars) and rage sends him spiraling it outwardly most of the time.

Of course he’ll react like Jin and Yoongi too, but what comes naturally to people of the same placement can be different from one another. It’s just a matter of figuring it all out, the hierarchy and everything in their chart. How direct/open it’s flowing with one another.

Anyways, Namjoon Jin and Yoongi are all very tenacious and it shows. This is a common trait between Cancer Mars, their dedication to their work once they put their mind to it. 

As much as they need security/validation before they take any physical action (sensing/edging into the territory) once they choose to step foot in the direction they take charge (cardinal). 

Cancer are defensive but they’re not stagnant about it (not like fixed signs). They move forward, they’re constantly growing/learning as they integrate knowledge/feeling little by little.

Although they can appear slow because they’re not like-- aggressively attacking. They’re more like aggressively defensive and tentatively attacking.  

Aspects

Mars (Cancer) - Opposition - Uranus (Capricorn)

Mars aspecting Uranus gives the person a love for the eccentric, unusual and underdog type of people. 

He wants to make a difference for people like that, for people who are suffering from that difference. 

At the same time this need can be brash, acting without thinking. Lacks the stability/focus it needs that keeps Cancer Mars defensive. 

When it’s pulled one way or the other, sometimes it sacrifices the biggest lesson/trait the sign has to learn in order to Win against the other y know. It’s tough like that. 

It also emphasizes both Cancer-Capricorn’s worst trait, which is their stubbornness and inability to listen to others/open up to others. 

Mars (Cancer) - Opposition - Neptune (Capricorn)

This probably brought on alot of his introspective insecurities, since it talks about his dreams/subconscious/vision not being able to bring it through his actions into reality. 

It really emphasize that Depression Feels that Saturn (Pisces) brings about in us. 

A lot of hesitation with not exactly knowing what he wants, and being scared of whether he can manifest it into reality or not

And if he can, then is it what he really wants? Will he regret it later?

Cancer and Capricorn both wants stability before they act, so when they’re at opposition to each other it creates this dynamic where they have to learn from each other, compromise and understand each other through their differences. 

With Mars (activity) and Neptune (dreams/visions/subconscious) it’s wanting to bring/merge everything together but being held back by fear of rejection/criticism. 

Stemming from that initial hesitancy/fear of not knowing exactly how to phrase/word themselves, they don’t know if they can have the go-ahead to do things or if they should wait it out/look for other signs. 

Mars (Cancer) - Sextile - Lilith (Taurus)

This is really cute since it’s at 0 degrees 

He’s always so surprised when people genuinely think he’s handsome/sexy/attractive/charming

Like-- his embarrassment is so genuinely him and humbling. Lilith is the space between the planets, so the void that talks about insecurities and a part of what our deepest fears might be (arguable, since it’s not a planet itself but the space between planets)

Namjoon’s Cancer Mars has the kind of placements that’s more suitable for someone to say he’s a ‘charming gentle oppa who feels kind and caring and like he can take care of others well’ -- so hearing he’s sexy/attractive/charming is such a?? wow I didn’t expect that moment for him.  

Asteroids

Virgo Chiron Scorpio Juno Taurus Lilith  NN in Scorpio  

Conclusion

Alot of the main focus was on the Sun-Moon aspect and placement themselves. For Namjoon, it ties in a lot with his head/heart and overall personality.

His luminary here is where the struggle is really at, everything else is kind of negotiating/meditating between the two, as well as doing their individual thing. 

Because his Sun-Moon ties into a lot of his other placements, the aspect it makes are more observable to see when we look at how it’s manifesting for him. (broadcast, interviews, etc.)

Besides the Virgo Sun/Capricorn Decan stuff, the Moon-Saturn aspect was hard to do. 

Namjoon’s probably been predisposed/conditioned through negative challenges and came to expect it, and stays stuck in that cycle he has to break from. 

It contributes a lot to his own self-worth, self-love and insecurities. It makes him even more reserved, even more sullen and moody. 

It makes him stubborn but also hesitant. Swings between craving/wanting nurture/intimacy and being distrustful/uncommunicative about his expectation and therefore-- hurting others around him.   

It plays a lot into his expectation, and as a leader he probably feels like he can’t develop fully into embracing optimism either. He has to keep an eye out for the team. This doesn’t help with his indecision, keeping one foot in and one foot out in his adjustment/expectation for the future. He can’t fully trust fate to play him a good hand. It does fuels a lot into his Virgo’s critical nature as well as his Libra Mercury’s analytical one though. 

The Venus-Saturn and a lot of the positive aspects we really nice to look at. 

I know I didn’t touch on the duality of positive-negative aspects (I only did one narrative for each one) but you should still remember/see that positive aspects will still have negative trait if used weirdly (and negative aspects will still have positive trait despite being a naturally occurring challenge to deal with) 

We don’t really get to see a lot of harder stuff on Namjoon which is what should be celebrated/looked at to appreciate him, so I hope this reading puts a little more focus on that so we don’t gloss over his hardship/challenges 

Know that there’s a lot of positive things in his chart going on for him too, this is just a narrative that shines a light on his hardship a bit more so we can embrace/appreciate him better (fully). 

💕I hope this wasn’t too tedious for you to read through, there’s alot to touch on within the post. But I’ll be condensing all the positive stuff +more Namjoon focused stuff in his ‘NJ Birthday Project’ series. Again, this is just my interpretation of things, it’s just one narrative in the overall scope of how much we can learn so other ideas/thoughts on the subject are just expansion on the main branch of astrology. We’re all participating to the community here, thank you for joining me in my journey (I’ll probably edit the Venus + Mars part and add in more later)  💕

[dysfunctionalnerd]

20 Followers game

tagged by @999-picarat-puzzle and now @universalchaos19 fhjshd

Rules: Tag 20 followers you want to know better, and FORCE THEM TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS OR BE SENTENCED TO DEATH (no thanks i dont wanna tag no one in case they feel forced to do it if they dont wana)

Nickname(s): Oh the names ive had in the past hdjhdj. Everything from Isaac, Isa, vegeta, branch (like the tree), mango juice, juice, juicy??, and all the odd pet names my boyfriend uses that he also uses for his dog ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Gender: Trans Male

Astrological sign: Well so im a gemini sun, scorpio moon, and cancer ascending which is uh,,,, a handful tbh fhsjhd

Sexuality: Demisexual, definitely homosexual but like open to heteroflexability? basically i just like what i like and its mostly men or masc people but if i found myself falling for a girl or femme well i wouldnt care

Hogwarts house: uhhhhhhhh ive taken the test so many times and get mixed results but im quite sure im a griffindor rn

Favorite Animal: penguins are my fucking fav dhsjhd but pandas, dogs, cats, and basically non insect animals make the cut as favs too fhsjdh

Number of blankets: ?????? i use like 1?? i own maybe 5?? idk??

Where are you from: Born in LA, raised in Seattle, family is from tijuana, mexico and israel, so like idk

Dream Trip: cross country road trip with my fav person in the world @iskah-016 where we travel all through the US and then all the way down all of latin america and visit the best beaches and the cutest cafés

When i started this account: like summer of 2015 i think? maybe even 2014

Why i started this account: yknow funny story, this blog was gonna be an ask blog for my version of the puzzle family, so id draw out the answer to asks dedicated to either hershel, randall, claire, luke, and flora (kat didnt quite exist at the time yet and i had no interest in alf) but my adhd said fuck you and it just turned into my personal nerd/vent account where i just share what i like. it used to also be my art blog but i eventually made an entire new main for art just for like organizational purposes. but i mean hey if yall ever feel like asking the puzzle family a question be my guest this blog is a mess but consider it to be randalls messy blog bc im fucking randall in so many ways hfkshdkdhd

like i said i dont wanna tag anyone incase they feel forced to answer questions they dont feel comfy with but if ur reading this and say hey this looks fun consider urself tagged bc i love all 350 of my followers and wanna know about em uwu

[jjillekkot]

There’s going to be some organizational & structural changes to this blog soon. It would be pertinent for you to read this post if you’re interested in interacting here, or with me in general.

For those who want to skip “drama”, the tl;dr is: I’m going on vacation next week; Yuffie is going on a soft reboot; Paz will be moved to her own blog; and I’m changing up my inner circle. If you skip this and then wonder “uwu what happened” it’s all on you.

I’ve been afraid to say anything for a while, but it’s culminated for far too long and I have to speak up and act on it because this month, it’s truly manifested in my mental health and for my own comfort I need to make a change. As some of you know, I’ve been going on and off with depression. Some of you might even argue that it’s been going for several months. And while the first wave of it was non-preventative ( due to my medicine, which only lasted three weeks ), this second one is caused and influenced by something I can control. Namely, how I allow others to treat me and in turn, how I choose to interact with others.

While I’m no stranger to being abandoned, neglected, or being abused in realms of scenes I cannot control ( family, school, etc ), what I can control is where I go and what I do in my free time. This is a hobby, meaning the people I interact with are voluntary. And theoretically, it should be a good experience because I’m with friends who I chose, right? Lately, it’s been wrong. Lately, I’ve been feeling lonelier than ever. And it shouldn’t have to take two Discord group chats to rally up people to remind me that I have worth, because the people who surround me should be doing that every day ( or at least, on a regular basis ). So I need to step up and do something different, and that means to surround myself with people who actually care majority of the time.

One message that is applicable to everyone is that I’m going on a week long trip to Texas, beginning Sunday ( but I leave at 2am, so it’s practically Saturday ). I will not be available for communication on either here or Discord. I will be available however, on Twitter and Snapchat. If you don’t have those things, then I’ll see you when I get back.

I’ll be going through an unfollowing spree effectively immediately. I thought about not saying anything at all. I also considered just silently archiving and hard rebooting. I have so much anxiety and discomfort on Yuffie lately being surrounded by people who do not communicate with me, who do not wish to ever interact or like my content, who only expect me to reach out to them, who after saying they want me to reach out them explicitly ignore me, and all of whom guilt me, whether purposely or passive aggressively. I’m done. If you’re a recent follower ( within the last 1~2 months ), I get you’re probably just looking around for an opportunity to interact. Maybe you’re like me with a bit of social anxiety. If I actively like your content and we’re mutuals, you’re likely safe. This message explicitly goes for people who for 4+ months who treat me as a last resort if one at all, constantly goes through excuses on why they can’t interact with me but they can interact with everyone else, who even when I do send messages can’t even bother to message back, who send out guilt-tripping messages and still don’t change their behavior after they supposedly assume responsibility. I get the idea that we don’t talk to all our friends every day. But if I see you on every day, and every day piles up into months, and even when I try to poke in you make it extremely obvious how inconvenient I am to you, but everyone else is fine? Yeah, no. I’m done with that. You had your time, you’ve had your excuses. And I’m through. You can continue to follow me if you’d like, but I’m not planning on following again. Cry your river elsewhere, prove your sincerity if you actually mean it. Because otherwise I consider this bridge burned. I am tired of being surrounded by people who cannot give actual fucks, who lead me on, who manipulate me, who literally just want to see how much they can get me to do because they think it’s cute or funny... and I’m done with it. 

Speaking of other things I’m done with. I’m dropping old ( 2+ months ) AND unused relationships ( and affiliated verses if applicable ). Unless you’ve spoken to me otherwise about it, it’s gone because it’s pretty indicative that you’ve abandoned it. There’s some people I have kept for 1 year already without having any actual communication about it. And that’s dumb of me, quite frankly. So, if it’s been two months ( or longer ) since our characters have actually done anything with one another, I’m dropping it. If we said we were going to do something & then it never came to fruition, I’m dropping it. You’re more than welcome to introduce new concepts to me, and I’ll even place a shipping call later. Basically, the only ships/relationships I want around are those which are active. And if you want to state your case, you have until end of day today to do it. If I don’t hear from you by the time I go to bed, it’s too bad. I’m not making exceptions, I’m not being soft about this. You’ll have to suggest something else to me, or re-introduce it to me... and I’ll be picky about accepting prior relationships from people who have already made it obvious they’re fine dropping or ignoring me as an individual, nevermind as a writing partner.

This isn’t new, but it should be stated anyway. Read my rules. If I don’t follow you back, I probably have a reason for it; either I haven’t seen it ( I only check every few weeks ) or I purposely chose not to for my own personal reasons. Spamming my messages and asking “Please love me” is not going to change my mind. When you read this blog was private and highly selective, it wasn’t there for decoration. It’s there to let you know I do not follow back everyone. Another ( gentle ) reminder is to please ask me to transfer an ask into a thread, under every circumstance. I like to keep my draft count low; also, I do not track threads on a counter or anything like that, so it helps me be more in control of what is floating around and what I’m responsible for. You might do it because you don’t think you’ll get a chance to interact with me, but please be patient. Every time I post a meme I get 10~20 asks as a response, and I like to take my time on all of them. I can’t chug out replies most of the time, either. So I ask that you just wait your turn, or just ask me if it’s okay so that I’m not overwhelmed or pressured into interactions. I hate turning people down, but also remember if it’s not a resounding yes, then it’s likely a soft no. Also, no means no. Please respect my comforts, or you can go. 

Paz will be moved to her own blog at a later date ( basically when I finish all her asks ). All the stress and drama here has impacted my ability to write on her considering she’s a sub-blog. But I really like her as a muse, the people who follow me there are great & I love them to bits, so... I don’t think she deserves to be negatively impacted because of what I see here. 

When I get back from my vacation, do expect all changes to be final, my attitude to be final, and to overall see me hopefully rejuvenated. If you survive the following purge then congrats! I’m delighted to have you around and I look forward to our interactions! If you’ve read this all to the end, I want to say thank you. I wish you well & I sincerely appreciate it.